James Thie: Globe Trotting Welsh Miler
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UK Middle Distance Runner, James Thie, has been a Great Britain team member since 1998. As well as Welsh Record holder in the Indoor 1500m, 1 mile and 2000m. James has made a name for himself as a fearless competitor who's never afraid to travel the globe to gain success. We catch up with James a few months after he narrowly missed an Olympic berth and a few months before he ties the knot...

RunnersTribe: James, you are back after one hell of an injury lay-off. What's the story?
JT : I don't feel I have had a lot of luck over the last few years. I would say over the last three I have had little more than two months of running in total without any pains. First was an abductor problem, then food poisoning at the Commonwealth Games leading to further complications. This was over lapped by a long-standing hamstring injury, and then my ever hurting Achilles got worse and worse. The Achilles has been the hardest injury to shift and it's a case of living and dealing with it at the moment, but its been on and off since January 2007. In this time I have had lots of time off and lots of different treatments, some have helped and others have not. The most effective in the end was two epidurals, one of which was in April when I couldn't run more than 5 minutes without pain. This saved my summer season, but some pain is back and I have good days and horrible (painful) days!
RT: A lot of runners suffer from Achilles problems, what sort of rehab exercises are working for you?
JT : I have tried them all, at first it was all eccentric loading and I seemed to wake up doing them and going to bed finishing them off! It did help but I needed other treatments to really help the Achilles, as the blood supply is so bad in the Achilles area. I had it stripped with the needle twice, which did help and the epidurals just helped settle the area down. The big problem was the pain had been so bad for so long the Achilles didn't know how to switch the pain off.

RT: You mentioned that due to the Achillies injury that you have been unable to run for more than 40 minutes at any one time. Subsequently, has your aerobic fitness not taken a dive?
JT : My Achilles got to a point that it didn't like longer runs, I think this is due to a long standing ankle weakness. I decided the best idea would be to switch any longer runs and some morning runs to the Bike. I was going down to the gym and hitting 90mins or 45mins on the exercise bike, which was boring as hell. But fitness wise my endurance really held up and I was able to get all my sessions completed on the track.
RT: You seem to have bounced back quickly from the long lay-off. Did you do much cross training during the time off with injuries?
JT : During some of my longer spells of Achilles problems I did a lot of work on an indoor ski machine. The levels of fitness gained and maintained by cross training really shows me the importance, and use of it in my training even when fit.
RT: You recently finished 6th at the British Olympic trials and have run some pretty solid times, including a 3:58 mile at Dublin's Morton Mile (which was just 0.3 secs off his PB). Are you disappointed to miss the Olympic team, or due to the injuries and set-backs was it not really something you were expecting to happen?
JT : Yes I'm gutted not to have made it to the Olympics, and as you get older you really look back at better chances that might have gone and past. In 2000 I came 6th in the trials but was pleased as I was 22 years old and thought that I would be ready in four years time. In 2004 I took 4th at World indoors and was in great shape running 3:38 indoors. Straight after I got injured and missed most of April, by the time I got back I was chasing my tail. I ran 3:37.0 a week before the trials and the standard was 3:36.2, I ran 3:38.4 the week after and that was that. Looking back since I realized that 2004 was my best chance to have made the team, its easy to say 'what if' but I would love to have known what I could have run without the injury. Since 2005 I have had a horrible run of luck, food poisoning at the Commonwealths was hard to take. I made the European indoor champs final in 2007 with my painful Achilles, and before and after I have had loads of other problems. Leading into this summer I had missed the indoors with injury and then had the Achilles problems flair up again in April. When I did race I was just happy to be out there again, but this doesn't stop the same old thought of 'what if!. I know that this season I have run 1:50, 3:41.1 and 3:58 without any luck and in pain, so I can't wait to be fit and injury free again.

RT: I see that in the past your have used altitude tents quite extensively. You even went to the trouble of taking haematocrit and haemoglobin readings before and after the course of altitude exposure. Do you still use such tents and do you think the whole process is worthwhile and helpful?
JT : I have been lucky to use Altitude tents over the last 5 years. I have been tested before, during and after for haematrocrit and haemoglobin levels. Both went up with my norms of 46% and 15.5 going up to 49% and 16.5, this was along with a loss in body fat. The tent works very well by going 5 days in 2 days out for around 5-6 weeks, and the benefit is you can train low live high. Also you don't have to leave home for 6 weeks and can keep your normal training and home routine without travelling for days to get to altitude. Also pre big events it means you can go back in for a 2-3 week phase again without any hassle or period to acclimatize.
RT: For those of us who know squat about the British athletics system, I hear that some top runners get funding from clubs, which can at times involve more than just basic cost covering and can even extend to providing assistance helping runners with their travel, living expenses etc. Have you been able to milk this or is it not quite as good as it sounds?
JT : The only funding that is out there is the Lottery Program, and this supports those up and coming athletes that UK Athletics feels could medal at a major championships. The support is good if you get on that, but a lot of very good athletes' fall outside qualifying for the support, and something like age is used against you. My experience is mixed with the funding, as I was one of the first athletes to go on the development plan in 2000. This was after finishing 6th in the Olympic Trails, but I ended up receiving almost no money that actually helped me. The next year I took 5th in the UK champs and was dumped off as I didn't hit the times they wanted, after only 6 months on the scheme. I was gutted at the time as it was like someone saying I was no longer good enough after only 6 months! In 2003, I almost made the World indoor final running a PB, and the year later took 4th in the World Indoors. After that I went on to Elite Welsh funding, which was worth $8000 a year. This was the most disappointing thing as you believe the support will be good when you make World teams and finals, but its not. The US have a better system of support clubs and groups, in which like minded athletes train and are supported together. For the UK to move endurance forward this must be a way we look to develop, with the use of the Lottery funding to support such programs. I have more support from my US Club New York AC, than help in the UK, which I have been really grateful for. This highlights the problems that many UK athletes face, and many now are basing themselves in the US or are being lost thanks to this lack of support.
RT: The British Milers Club (BMC) system seems like a very professional and effective way to organize races, with rabbits in every race and quite good depth. How have you found the BMC races? Do you find they negate the need to travel overseas in order to race?

JT : The BMC have been a big part of my development through the junior and senior ranks. I ran most of my best junior and under 23 times in their races, which is common for most of the current internationals such as Mike East, Andy Badderely and Lisa Dobriskey. I was lucky in my youth that one of the local BMC organizers put on loads of mile and 1500m races. This gave me lots of chances to race the best guys from a young age, at 20 I ran 4:03 for a mile and was 11th in a BMC race for example. This season I have done almost all the biggest BMC races, as was perfect for my development back from injury. Its great to know we have good races on our doorsteps that are getting better every year.
RT: You are now thirty and are soon to be married, congratulations. I see on your website that you are soon to launch an online coaching business, is this what you see yourself doing in the future?
JT : Yes I'm getting married next April to my long-term girlfriend Alex, we have been together 10 years so it's about time! Work wise I am always looking at other areas to work on, I love coaching and can see myself going further down that line in the future. Coaching in the US College system is something I am very interested in doing, and can't wait to coach some NCAA champions.
RT: In terms of training. Since you consider the 1500m/mile to be your main event, if you had an aspiring young 18 year old 1500m runner under your reigns what sort of training program would you have him/her doing?
JT : Looking back at my old training logs there are a few things that jump out, and one of those is over-training. Too many times I trained too hard for too long, and should have had an easy week every three weeks. One time aged 19 I ran 12 weeks of 85miles average with 3 hard sessions a week, I was flying in the middle and dying at the end! Also I think that I would have looked more at technique and good conditioning work during the winter. This prepares you for future work and is hard to go back to later in your career. In the summer I wish I had done more speed work, as again its hard to go back to in the future, as its easier to move up in distances when older and speed is hard to come by in the latter years!

RT: You have traveled the world more than most, including regular races throughout America, especially New York. Do you have any particularly memorable traveling experiences that you could share?
JT : I have been lucky to do some great races and have had some amazing experiences on the way. Races have included trips to Hong Kong, Jamaica , Maui and Brazil. My favorite trips have been in the US, where I have done a few wacky races and road trips. One of my craziest was in 2004, when I ran in the wannermaker mile in Madison Square gardens at 9pm NYC time. I took 2nd place and ran straight for a cab to JFK airport and at 11pm was flying back to the UK for the World indoors trials. I landed at 10am, and at 12pm was flying to Manchester. My girlfriend met me at the airport and we drove across to Sheffield and got there at 4pm. We had heats scheduled for 5pm, and I thought I could have a chilled out run before the final. The heats were cancelled, and instead of being the next day they called it for that day. So after less than 16 hours and a few thousand miles traveled I stood on the start line in the UK championship final. I took 2nd being Mike East and made the UK team, and ended up with more media interest for two 2nd places than winning one of them!
RT: To finish, what's on the cards? Is the goal to have one last crack in London 2012?
JT : I would be lying if I said I wouldn't be going for it, I will be 34 so it my last chance of making the team. In between I have the Commonwealth Games, and after being ill in 2006, I really want to do myself justice.
RT: All tbe best
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You will be required to predict the finishing position of all Australian athletes who officially start an event;

On the 31st July, 2004 a future star of the track was born. Standing at only 5 feet tall, Jordan Hasay ran an amazing 9:48.77 over 3000m at the US Junior Olympics in Eugene, Oregon and in the process showed the world of track and field that one day she would be a star of the sport. So what's happened in the life of Hasay since that magical run in Oregon? Well she's grown another four inches and has also been to a World Youth Championships (2007) and World Junior Championships (2008). Added to this was the fact that she made the final of the women's 1500m at the 2008 US Olympic Trials and in the process broke the US High School record, running 4:14.50 in her semi final.
There is certainly no doubt about the fact that she has broken numerous records as a high school athlete, including her 1500m US High School record of 4:14.50. Although based purely on times I don't think you could get too carried away with what she has achieved. On top of her US High School record in the 1500m, Hasay has run a 4:42.21 mile (coverts to around 4:21 for the 1500m), a 9:19.6h 3000m - on her way to a 9:52.13 for the 3200m, and a 10:07.65 over 2 miles. She has also run a personal best of 2.09.92 for the 800m, but we would expect that to be much faster if she was given the chance. So how do these times compare to two other junior stars, Australia's Georgie Clarke, who back in 2000 ran at the Sydney Olympics in the women's 1500m as a 16 year-old and Stephanie Twell (pictured above), who also competed at the Olympics as a teenager (she was 19 at the 2008 Beijing Olympics)? Below is a table comparing the three athletes, from ages 15 through to 18 (* based on her 4:42 mile effort - estimate only)
Hasay will get the chance to become a World Junior champion in 2010, if she makes the trip to Canada, and by then she could have broken the 4:10 mark for the 1500m - a quality performance by any junior female 1500m athlete. It is interesting to see that an athlete such as Twell from Great Britain, the 2008 World Junior 1500m champion and prospective rival for Hasay in the future, has since run a 4:03.62 in 2009(7 June) and has also run a personal best of 8:50.89 over 3000m (when finishing 7th at the 2008 World Athletics final). Twell, the 2008 Olympian and next big hope in middle distance running in Britain, also finished off her junior career with an impressive 4:05.83 in the 1500m. If Hasay can replicate these times over the next 18 months then there would be no doubt that she should be rated as one of the worlds better junior female middle distance runners. See below for the junior women's 1500m world all-time rankings (note: I have omitted the performances of the Chinese at both the 1993 and 1997 National Championships with big question marks surrounding their performances - official place on the rankings are placed in the first column in the ( ):

to get close to that time.” Get close to that time he did, running 8:00.76, on a cool, calm night in Adelaide. Set up by race promoter PJ Bosch, the race was won in 8:00.2 by Australian Representative Liam Adams, who seemingly gave up the opportunity to run his first sub 8 minute 3000m to look back and cheer on Richard over the last 100m.



The quest for the four-minute mile made John Landy a world star, famous from Afghanistan to Zanzibar . Few other Australian sportsmen or women - certainly no other track and field athlete, had achieved such fame. Starting with Edwin Flack at the first modern Olympic Games in Athens in 1896, there had been a handful of champions. Flack, among others, achieved fleeting fame. But no Australian athlete would have established him or herself on a wider, international public in the manner Landy did from December 1952 through to the Melbourne Olympic Games in 1956. People all over the world knew who Landy was, followed his exploits, made judgements on his athletic strengths and shortcomings. When he struggled with an achilles tendon injury shortly before the Melbourne Games, an overwhelming flood of letters advising treatments and cures poured into his family’s letterbox from all around Australia and overseas.
It's a gloomy summers morning, and as I look across the road, a sea of runners are making their way in either direction around the well known 'Tan' track in Melbourne. As I contemplate this scene for a second, my attention returns to my company, that of Australian 1500m runner Jeremy Roff. Having run the heats of the Victorian 800m titles last night, Roff and I have just finished an easy jog, and tuck into a coffee and muffin while we discuss all things running, and importantly, the running of the man opposite me.

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